“It became a joke,” Maitlis told Spicer. “It became something that defined you. You joked about it when you presented the Emmy Awards, but it wasn’t a joke,” HuffPost reports.

“It was the start of the most corrosive culture. You played with the truth. You led us down a dangerous path. You have corrupted discourse for the entire world by going along with these lies.”

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Here’s the short of Spicer’s answer: OK, I kind of told a tall tale about the inauguration numbers but let’s be clear the media lies too!

You can watch the full interview below, but I warn you it’s triggering because Spicer is still trash.