One of Donald Trump’s good friends, shock jock Howard Stern, says he believes deeply that Trump never wanted to be president and, instead, really wanted Hillary Clinton to win.
The outspoken and outlandish radio personality said that President Trump wasn’t joking when he noted in a recent interview with Reuters during his 100-days-in-office mark (a date he denounced after realizing that he’d done as much as president as a wet dishrag) that he missed his “old life.”
“I loved my previous life. I had so many things going. This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier,” Trump told Reuters.
Stern told listeners during his SiriusXM Radio show that he’d seen firsthand how Trump lives and that Trump was “being very honest” when he noted that he missed his old life.
“I’ve seen it up close,” Stern said, Yahoo! News reports. “[Trump’s] got that kind of life that politicians want.
“Seventy-year-old guy who has made so much money—he’s made billions of dollars—that he has his own helicopter, he has his own aeroplane,” he added. “He has a hot wife. He’s got fame from a No. 1 television show. He can walk around Mar-a-Lago, which is like any palace—better than the fucking White House.”
Trump has been a frequent guest on Stern’s radio show, and since Trump has given up his reality-TV spotlight to become Steve Bannon’s son, Stern has refused to air old Trump interviews, saying that it would be betrayal if he did so. Most of Trump’s interviews with Stern included lewd and derogatory talk about women, much of which was used to try to discredit his run for president. Stern said he isn’t an insider, but added that the two men are friends.
Stern told listeners that he was at Mar-a-Lago when Trump declared that he was going to win.
“I was at fucking Mar-a-Lago laughing about it,” Stern said, according to Yahoo! News. “I said, ‘What are you, out of your fucking mind?’”
“‘Ah, we’ll see what happens,’” Trump replied, according to Stern.
Stern said that he believes Trump never truly wanted to be president but that the rallies and the results began snowballing and it all just got out of control.
“What happened to Donald Trump was—and I know about this because I was in therapy for 50 fucking years, and thousands of hours, and cost a fortune—like Trump, I can’t say no to stuff. I was a workaholic,” Stern said.
“I didn’t really think about the impact on my personal life. All I would think about is the big announcement,” Stern added, explaining how he accepted film and TV contracts.
“[Trump] said, ‘Hey, I can be president of the United States possibly.’ And then when he went out on the campaign trail, and he started to win, it was like, ‘Oh my God, I’m going to be president, and all these crowds love me, and it’s going to be fun.’ No fucking idea the shitty life he was going to have,” said Stern.
“He’s sitting in the fucking White House dreaming about getting to Mar-a-Lago, where he was,” Stern continued. “Believe me, nobody wanted Hillary to win more than Donald Trump. He didn’t need this. He’s got the kind of life you dream of.”