1. The documentary was excellent and I highly recommend you watch it on Netflix if you haven't already. Especially the first hour. It chronicled the beginnings of Organized Noize in East Point to their ascent with Outkast to Goodie Mob and TLC (though they got an early look via TLC way before producing "Waterfalls"), etc. Because I so vividly remember those times of my life (I was a teenager and music, like ball, was life), seeing the documentary that coincided with my own personal history was dope. The second half of the documentary wasnโt as hot for one simple reason: ONP is looooooooooooong past their heyday. Anything past 2000 (Bubba Sparxxx, Killer Mike, Calhouns, etc) is sporadic and just not as memorable. Which is okay; their legacy is solid and firmly cemented in hip-hop, especially southern hip-hop, lore. Drugs, as was somewhat implied, didnโt kill their mojo. Itโs just that all of their artists got old. Outkast (and both unsurprisingly and surprisingly, Ceelo) were the only viable superstar artists they worked with after their downturn, and both were artsy enough to wade into the production waters themselves (more on this later). Iโm glad they got their just due with a documentary, though. The south has had something to say for years and Organized Noize, particularly in Atlanta, was instrumental in saying it. That was a pun.
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2. In the doc, they show Ricoโs house after he moved out of the Dungeon of Lakewood Ave. Itโs on Adams Rd in southwest Atlanta. I remember driving by that house ALL the time on my way to Greenbriar from my house on MLK and ALWAYS looking at that house wondering if Outkast or Goodie Mob or whoever was in there making magic. Every. Single. Time. I remember driving by one time and seeing a ton of fancy cars out there and being so hyped like I was going to be able to get into the gates. In my head, they were in there cooking up something special. I had no idea who they was, but they were were there and my life was going to be better for it. Thatโs how hyped I was about Organized Noize.
2b. The part about The Dungeon, where they describe it and how much time they spent down thereโฆgood Lord. That was some real hip-hop shit. It was basically a hollowed out crawl space with dirt walls. That's how you go from nothing to something. That part alone is worth watching.
3. I donโt think Ray Murray has ever gotten the credit he deserved. For instance, until that doc, I donโt think I understood how vital he was. To let the magazines, interviews, and name recognition tell it, Rico Wade is ONP and ONP is Rico Wade. We all knew Sleepy Brown and Ray were part of the family, but it wasnโt until I watched it that I realized that at ANY point during their heyday, if Ray was like โfuck thisโ the whole shit would have come to an end. Heโs the musical backbone, which is so interesting, because again, when I think ONP, I think Rico, which always made me think he was the main musical force, and it turns out he was basically Yoda. Ray, I salute you and all of the great music you brought to my life as the general architect. And it isnโt to say that Rico didnโt produce, because he did, I just didnโt realize how MUCH Ray was responsible for.
4. At the same time, as Iโm supremely removed from Atlanta at this point, Iโd almost forgotten just how ATL Rico Wade is. Good gotdamn. Rico sounds like every hood ATL dude youโd ever meet. In college, I lived on MLK, on the Westside, in my family's old house on Peyton Place, SW (it looks like HELL now). Well, down the street and right past the Cascade Family Skating Center (Cascade as you all saw in the movie ATL), thereโs a Checkerโs that had the 99 cent chicken sandwiches. Man I loved that place and the 99 cent chicken sandwiches. Me and my boy went there one day, and when I tell you that my boy, a southerner from Alabama, couldnโt understand SHIT the dude was saying at the register? It was like a Black SNL skit, where I had to translate the entire transaction for him. To me, he sounded normal. Those real thick ATL accents are something else, shawty, and can be damn near unintelligible. I felt that way about listening to Rico talk at first. I had to reframe my mind back to that ATL lean.
5. Rico Wade was REALLY upset that he didnโt get a chance to work on Speakerboxx/The Love Below. And I get it, you taught them everything they know and then they decide they donโt need you anymore; that has to sting a bit (though they did a lot of production on one of Big Boiโs later albums). However, I canโt help but feel itโs a bit of retrospective saltiness. Speakeboxx/The Love Below wentย diamond and won a Grammy for Album Of The Year. And then they get up to receive the award and donโt thank ONP on stage. Okay, I get it, they could have given them a thanks. But if that album tanked and was trash, would he have cared? I donโt know. Maybe, maybe not. But when something blows the fuck up, and you ainโt apart of it after having been apart of the lead up to it, you tend to catch feelings. Mind you, he said this from inside Stankonia Studios, the former Bosstown Studios (previously owned by Bobby Brown), that is currently owned by Big and Andre 3000. So heโs got feelings, but theyโre all apparently still cool. But I also find it hard to believe that Rico didnโt see that coming. Apparently, โElevators (Me & U)โย (for my money, one of the greatest beats in hip-hop history) was the first song they produced (with Mr. DJ as part of their Earthtone 3 production group) on their own without ONP on ATLiens, and they producedย other songs on ATLiens and then Aquemini, etc. They were going to do it all themselves one day. They were too talented NOT to.
6. You want to know REAL saltiness? Hereโs real saltiness: Iโve been by the Dungeon before, but never inside during its heyday. See my older sister and her friends all hung with all them niggas. So while I have family who knowย them all personally and hung out with them (also YoungBloodz), I never actually got to hang out or with any of these people. THAT is real salt. My older sisterโs best friend โ who is so part of our family that she comes to our family reunions, without my older sister โ counts some of these folks as actual confidantes and shit. Yet, I know none of them in a real personal capacity. THAT is saltiness, turn tables over style.ย When Cam'ron says, "you mad?" Yes. I am.
7. Kind of like Ray never got his due, neither did Goodie Mob. Outkast went global, but Goodie Mobโs Soul Food album felt like the heart and soul of Atlanta. โThe Day Afterโ still makes me all emotional. Ceelo was the clear superstar of the group, and thatโs proven true in recent years as his presence and voice stood out above all even back then. Though I have to say, I have NEVER liked TMo. In fact, every time he says the words โlife of crimeโ on the album, which he does more than too many times, I cringe. Also, what the fuck was he talking about on the title track, โSoul Foodโ. Everybodyโs talking about food and heโs talking about the OJ Simpson trial. Just stop , TMo. He was hilarious in the video though, they all were. I never liked TMo. Also, Iโm surprised that their song โBeautiful Skinโ off of Still Standing doesnโt get more love. More also, I hate TMo on that song as well.
8. I was wondering where Witchdoctor and Cool Breeze were. They were not good rappers, but good gotdamn did they get some of the most amazing production from ONP. Cool Breeze I definitely expected to be there since he was one of those artists that the Dungeon Family and ONP were specifically trying to get out there. โWatch For The Hookโ a song where everybody BUT Cool Breeze (and TMo because of course TMo) came for blood, was such a big deal when it first dropped that Iโm surprised it didnโt get any play in the doc. That was during the Interscope days where they left the money on the table but Cool Breeze was supposed to be the next big thing. Point is, Cool Breeze was a notable omission from the documentary.
9. Since Iโm sure nobody else on the Internet will give this song its necessary props (or mention it again for the next 20 years), Lil Willโs โLookinโ for Nikkiโ is such an ATL classic that I get misty thinking about it. I cannot stress enough how much this song banged in the A and how much it STILL bangs now. Organized Noize were KILLINโ the A-town game in the 90s, fam. Unheralded outside of Atlanta songs like this and Backboneโs โ5 Deuce 4 Treyโ and stuff like Mistaโs โBlackberry Molassesโ (I know that went a bit larger than regional) are the reasons folks love ONP so much. They made such great music. Not just beats, but music.
Like Ray Murray said when discussing how old music formats used to entertain like 7 minutes songs: โafter the first 3 minutes, you start to elaborate, AND THEN THE SHIT GETS BEAUTIFULโฆโ Organized Noize cared about the music.
By the way, if I ever write an autobiography, โAnd Then The Shit Gets Beautifulโฆโ might be the title.
10. I donโt think I really ever gave it a second thought until the documentary, but its entirely possible that motherfucking Pebbles is responsible for my youth. Thank you Pebbles.
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