LaVar Ball (Kevork S. Djansezian/Getty Images); Donald Trump (Pool/Getty Images)

If there is ever a lesson to be learned about LaVar Ball, it is that the man has powered up on his smack-talk game, and you will never be able to best him at it, even if you bring him on your CNN news show in an attempt to do so. Unfortunately, CNN host Chris Cuomo became the object lesson of this Monday night.

As we all know by now, Ball’s son LiAngelo went over to China with his UCLA teammates last week and got into some trouble at a Louis Vuitton store where LiAngelo Ball and two teammates were accused of shoplifting. They were released on bail and told by Chinese authorities to remain in their hotel until the legal matter was cleared up.

Donald Trump was at the end of his extensive trip to Asia, and he has told anyone who will listen that it is all because of him that the three players were released and allowed to return to the United States.

After soliciting a thank-you from the players on Twitter, he actually received and acknowledged that he received one from all three. Because as you know, your president is in constant need of validation.

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But obviously a thank-you from the players was not enough. Trump singled out LiAngelo’s father, LaVar Ball, as not being grateful enough sucking his dick enough kowtowing bowing down before him not giving fealty for not thanking him for the part he played in Ball’s son being released from China, even though many legal experts weighed in and said it was highly likely nothing would have been done to the college basketball players in the first place. Trump even tweeted to LaVar Ball, because of course he did.

Playing on the back-and-forth between the dotard in chief and Ball, Cuomo had Ball on his show CNN Tonight Monday evening to speak with him about the situation. It did not go well for Cuomo.

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To open the show, Cuomo thanked Ball for coming on the show and asked him, “Did you ever think you would be on CNN discussing geopolitics and the president of the United States?”

“Never in my wildest dreams,” Ball answered.

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“So as we live this dream, let’s discuss how we got here,” Cuomo said. “Your son was with UCLA, they’re playing ball over in China. They get detained with allegations that they stole merchandise from a store. The president finds out about it. He of course is in China; he’s meeting with President Xi. He gets involved. The boys are released. They get to come back home, which was never a certainty until he got involved.”

Ball cut Cuomo off immediately and asked him how he knew that the boys would not have been released without Trump’s involvement. He made Cuomo admit that Trump did not go over to China specifically to save the basketball players.

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“What we’re talking about right now is a lot of stuff about my son just because his last name is Ball. We’re not even talking about the other two kids,” Ball said.

“We’re talking about your son because of you and what you said,” Cuomo said. “This isn’t picking on your son. It’s because of how you inserted yourself into this and seemed to disrespect the president’s efforts.”

Ball clapped back.

“When somebody asks me a question, that’s not disrespectful if I feel nobody did anything. I don’t have to go around saying thank you to everybody … I have to know what somebody is doing before I say thank you. I’m not just going to go around and saying thank you … just because people say things that’s supposed to be true, like, ‘Hey, I stopped them saving 10 years,’ maybe we was doing some talking with some other people before he even got there,” Ball said.

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“There’s a lot of other matters to go around for the president to deal with that’s political,” Ball added. “I mean, as far as me, let me deal with my son and let him do what he’s going to do.”

Cuomo then said that Ball seemed to have doubts about what the president did.

“I don’t have no doubts about what he did; I have doubts about what he didn’t do,” Ball said. “If I’m coming to get you … let’s say I’m coming to get you out of trouble. If I’m coming to get you out of trouble, you best believe, Imma take you with me. So if I come over here, I’m going to say, ‘Excuse me, sir ... or whoever ... can you do something for this kid or this person and allow me to take them with me?’ That’s if I’m doing something for someone.”

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Cuomo then asked Ball if he was upset that the president didn’t bring the boys back with him. Ball said that that was not what he was saying.

Ball then said that if he was going to thank anyone, he would thank Chinese President Xi Jinping.

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“Why are we even talking about this with all of these political matters going on in the world?” Ball asked.

Ball said he wasn’t here for Trump’s bragging about what he had done for LiAngelo. He said he did not meet with Trump face-to-face. He said that Trump should come meet him like a man, shake his hand and tell him what he did for him [Ball].

Ball said that his 18-year-old son, who has a 4.0 GPA and has never done anything wrong, made an impulsive decision. He said that it shouldn’t go without punishment, but it wasn’t worth the big deal everyone was making over it.

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Ball then reminded Cuomo that the boys were not in jail at the time Trump supposedly intervened. They were in a hotel. He said that if Trump put up the bail money for them to get released, then he would thank him. He again asked Cuomo what exactly Trump did to help the boys get released, and Cuomo seemed to not understand that question.

Cuomo accused Ball of ducking his questions about why he wouldn’t thank the president, and Ball asked Cuomo why he was ducking the question of what exactly the president did to help the boys get released.

Ball then pointed out that if Trump was really trying to help, why did he need to keep asking for thanks for supposedly helping?

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“If he said he helped, that’s good for his mind, but why does it even have to be said? If you helped, you shouldn’t have to say anything. If I help somebody, I don’t walk around saying, ‘You know I helped you, now. Come on, now, give me some love! I helped you!’ Man, come on, for real?” Ball said.

“Somebody told me about the tweet a couple of days ago. I don’t even tweet. I’m just saying, ‘Why is that on your mind? All this stuff going on and that’s on your mind, that a father didn’t say thank you, and you are supposed to be the head of the U.S.?’” Ball added.

“Fair criticism,” Cuomo said.

“I’m just stating a point that there’s a lot of other things going on. Let him do his political affairs and let me handle my son and let’s just stay in our lanes,” Ball said.

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And that’s the black-ass bottom line. Trump is worried about the wrong thing all the time. His constant need for validation, even for the smallest things, is sad and pathetic.

Be a president, not an insecure teenager, Mr. Trump.

Watch the full interview below.