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He also explains that the only times he remembers having a gun pulled on him has been by law enforcement.

“I know a lot of dudes, a lot of people in the streets…a lot of gang-affiliated folks, I’ve never had guns pulled on me by any of them, but I’ve had guns pulled on me by the LAPD…for doing nothing,” he says. “This is a systemic, institutionalized problem that we are all fully aware of.”

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Elsewhere in the conversation, Lee asks the panelists to briefly discuss the nature of black pain for non-black viewers, as well as what has to be done by white people who are interested in helping to create change.

“We are seeing the watershed moment once again,” says Cheadle. “We should not be able to know Philando Castile, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, these things should not be burned into our consciousness. But thankfully, now that we have film and cell phones…this is something that no longer can be hidden”

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“My fervent prayer and hope is that this energy and this outrage…[is that] we can use to follow those who have been organizing in these spaces for many years,” he continues.