And for those wondering if Badu is waiting for her children to follow in her footsteps as a musician, she insists that decision is entirely up to them.

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“My kids are pretty hip,” she began. “They know the consequences of their choices and judgments. You can set yourself up for some stuff and just be prepared for it, and if you feel like you’re a winner already, then you’re a good candidate for competition. If you think this is going to ruin your life if you lose, then you don’t need to do it.”

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