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White slavery. The phrase and even the idea of it sounds funny, but this episode of The Root’s podcast, Unique Views—soon to be called The Haters—is serious.

A Handmaid’s Tale, on Hulu, looks at what would happen if, in a futuristic world, women, mostly white women, became indentured servants. Of course, my co-host, The Root’s creative producer, Danielle Young, aka Ms. Patti Patti LaDanielle, has a lot to say about this. She wasn’t feeling the show and had me watch, and I know that this doesn’t happen often, but I have to agree with her. It’s weird reading the think pieces and hearing the scuttlebutt surrounding this tale of white women as slaves in a futuristic society, when, I don’t know, black people actually were slaves! But if it increases white guilt to the point of reparations, then I’m all for it.

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For some reason, as if the world weren’t chaotic and depressing enough, Ms. Patti Patti binge-watched Underground. Thankfully she made it through, but she discusses why bingeing a show centered on slavery wasn’t such a great idea—and no, that isn’t a diss of John Legend’s horrible Frederick Douglass wig.

Also, and we can’t state this enough, but we are currently hating on LaVar Ball’s overreaching-dance-mom ass, and we re-enact the moment when Katy Perry’s manager thought it was a good idea to lead Perry to blackness by way of Migos.

On a serious note, we also discuss the overarching white supremacy coming from the White House and how this administration has to acknowledge its own responsibility in the cases of Ramad Chatman, a 24-year-old man who was found not guilty and yet is still serving a seven-year prison sentence; and Richard Collins III, the black college student who was stabbed by apparent white supremacist Sean Urbanski.

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And last but not least, we give actor-model-rapper-spiritual guru Tyrese a hard time. And while his acting leaves everything to be desired, I think we can all learn something from his spiritual and uplifting Instagram posts. While Tyrese is as deep as a baby pool, he does make some really compelling points. I won’t spoil them for you, but Ms. Patti Patti LaDanielle goes into a rousing rendition of “The Gospel According to Tyrese.”

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