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Posted By:
mecca at 07/18/2008 9:02:03 AM
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I loved reading your article! I can relate to all of it. I'm headed downstairs to get my tofu now. :)
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Senack at 07/13/2008 7:33:40 PM
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I really appreciated your article.
Peace and love sista!!!
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screaminveggie at 07/08/2008 11:08:00 PM
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Animalactivist8, you are an idiot. I do not think you have to be a biologist to know your away around the kitchen. The author never even mentioned wikipedia but if he/she did, I???m sure they would have at least spelled it correctly. I sure hope you are not a biologist or teacher for that matter. Thanks for th4e article. I appreciate the different point of view.-
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animalactivist8 at 07/10/2008 5:39:47 AM
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are you kidding me? learn to read....my comment was a reply-as in not towards the article author........but to the comment author. and no im not yet a certified biologist nor teacher buts its people like many on this wall that make me yearn fro both.
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fairview33 at 07/08/2008 8:14:11 AM
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As someone who became a vegan back in 1984 , I do not think the vegan diet is for everyone. As a matter of fact, I do think there are elements of lunacy in the whole issue. There is a degree of mental insanity with it. There is a book called "Eat Right for Your Type" which points out that some people NEED to eat animal products. There is someone who owns a totally vegan restaurant in NYC and she eats meat for her health. Finally, there are dangerous people involved with this animal rights and vegan issue who would put us in jail for eating meat. That is their ultimate aim - to control our eating and personal habits. Oprah needs to be VERY careful. These people are racists and evil people. BE CAREFUL, OPRAH, be VERY CAREFUL!!!! -
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Dantresomi at 07/05/2008 3:03:09 PM
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sandmadd at 07/04/2008 2:43:57 PM
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When I became a vegetarian in 1974, my father's way of explaining it was that I must have joined the black muslims (not so), since they had a reputation in the community for encouraging healthful eating ( father mistakenly thought the black muslim diet was meatless!) Around this same time, *** Gregory went public with the virtues of his vegan diet. So, blacks were vegan long before Oprah. But, thanks to Oprah and other celebrities, more and more average people of all races are looking into veganism. Folks see this as a win-win-win-win move: for our pocketbook, our health, the environment, and the animals. And, in the three decades since I went meatless, there's been a flood of cookbooks showing just how tasty and creative vegan dishes can be. Just check them out!. -
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balewa at 07/03/2008 10:09:50 AM
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being vegan, I can't eat everything grown from soil and tofu is one of them. I have a problem digesting tofu. The same with animal products. I don't believe the human digestive system is not designed to consume other creatures of the planet. There are no natural medicines derived from animals. We don't eat living animals. Gardening or farming is the best way for human consumption. Whether you're in America or not. Most of the world are conivoirs because of ignorance, addition and geographic locations. The idea of using tofu and bananas is to substitute the idea of using animal milk(nice and creaming). We can live and live well without animal consumption but not so with vegetation. The low-budget vegan is truly a crossroad of reality for many vegan, vegetarian and animal eaters. The tofu is dissagreeble with me. But the banana is great! -
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escape23 at 07/03/2008 1:09:51 AM
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You may think you're poor, and you may be compared to other Americans, but compared to the rest of the world, i doubt no one here really knows what poor feels like. Vegans here have the luxury of having many processed foods with concentrated nutrition like soy milk, tempeh, seitan, hemp milk, etc. Imagine if you were in a country without factories to produce such foods or you were a substistence level farmer. Would you still be a vegan or attack vegetarians so readily? My point is, that we are lucky to live in the US where we can be picky about our diet . But most of the world does not have this luxury. So while I really like a vegan diet, I am not going to attack nonvegans because after all, if I was living on the soil (no factory foods or fake meats), i would likely have to consider some dependence on animals, maybe for honey, maybe for milk or even fish and meat. -
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ambitiongoal@yahoo.com at 07/03/2008 12:36:58 AM
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I was inspired. I am a Homeless Christian American student of International relations and languages. I have been suffering financial and health related hardships due to political machinations by those I differ with. I have been a vegan for less than a month and I am trying to get accustomed to soy milk which I have not been able to purchase lately due to financial problems. -
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ambitiongoal@yahoo.com at 07/03/2008 12:34:14 AM
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it was very inspiring because I am a very recent vegan. I have been vegan for less than a month. I am a Homeless student who is suffering financial and health hardships due to politics. I'm trying to get accustomed to soy milk but have not had extra monies to purchase it alas. -
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Shamiria at 07/03/2008 12:28:17 AM
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I LOVE THIS ARTICLE! I was in Super Target this afternoon (because I'm boycotting Wal-Mart) and I was lamenting over the price of bell peppers; as well as other vegetables. I am also a vegan and since the majority of my diet consist of fresh fruit, vegetables and some sort of whole grain, my pockets are hurting. I have begun to do the same things that you are speaking of. Using bananas instead of an expensive egg replacement, making my own pancake syrup, etc. You are right. It is amazing what we can do without when we put our minds to it. Furthermore, sometimes the alternatives are even better, and healthier, than the norm. Thanks for the positive message. -
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Shamiria at 07/03/2008 12:27:44 AM
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I LOVE THIS ARTICLE! I was in Super Target this afternoon (because I'm boycotting Wal-Mart) and I was lamenting over the price of bell peppers; as well as other vegetables. I am also a vegan and since the majority of my diet consist of fresh fruit, vegetables and some sort of whole grain, my pockets are hurting. I have begun to do the same things that you are speaking of. Using bananas instead of an expensive egg replacement, making my own pancake syrup, etc. You are right. It is amazing what we can do without when we put our minds to it. Furthermore, sometimes the alternatives are even better, and healthier, than the norm. Thanks for the positive message. Shamiria... -
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happie2bnappie at 07/02/2008 8:47:01 PM
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Having cut standard cow's milk from my diet for several years now and briefly used soymilk, then rice milk when I learned that soy milk may cause allergies for some, I had never heard of hemp milk before your blog. So I researched it. Hemp milk seems to have a lot of benficial vitamins and minerals that make it worth trying. Without your blog mentioning it and that its cost is comparable to cow's milk, I would be unaware of this health-enhancing milk alternative. Thank you for sharing. From JP in Hot-lanta (Atlanta) -
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vhendrix at 07/02/2008 8:08:12 PM
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I use apple juice in my cereal...just a suggestion. -
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vhendrix at 07/02/2008 8:07:09 PM
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I use apple juice in my cereal....just a sugguestion. -
Posted By:
Mike280 at 07/02/2008 5:49:05 PM
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As a biologist, meat does not "rot" in our intestines. It is quickily broken down in our stomachs with the help of peptic acid. Once it reaches our intestines, it's in the form of amino acids. Also, I did wikipedia B12, it's not synthesized in animal tissue, but is the main source for humans. So if anything, at least I hopefully pointed out the importance to a few vegans about the importance of B12 supplements (if they didn't already know). So drink your soy milk (I bet it would be really good if you made oatmeal with it), but don't forget to take a calcium supplement, and to put a drop of B12 in it!-
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animalactivist8 at 07/08/2008 9:51:09 PM
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hahahahha and exactly what credentials do you believe make you a biologist? It is evident you don't know even the basics. Your admittance of using wkipedia as a source sure doesnt help your cred.
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simply tracy at 07/02/2008 5:16:59 PM
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The thing is, Omnivore, Vegetarian or Vegan...it's all a choice. Don't make fun of me for my choices, or tell me that I'm going to die of horrible diseases,or pity me for my choice. It IS my choice, just as your choice is yours. Just accept it, and I will accept your choice, without trying to convert you to what I might believe is the better way. -
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tnunez at 07/02/2008 4:51:01 PM
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to jknichols:
produce spoils more quickly than meat because you freeze your meat. meat begins to spoil/rot almost immediately if left out. buy bulk frozen vegetables and fruits - better than canned and less expensive than fresh, but good for you nonetheless. beans, rice, pasta, lentils, textured vegetable protein, even many forms of tofu - some othe cheapest food on the planet. the governemnt heavily subsidizes the meat and dairy industries (even buying extra dairy to pour over our kids' meals in public schools - cheese covered everything) more than it does organic produce. too bad. the lobbyists for those industries are plentiful and powerful. you can be healthy and eat vegetarian/vegan foods even without spending a fortune. i live in harlem, usa, and many of us eat at the uptown juice bar - $6 (in NYC!) for a FULL plate of delicious and healthy vegan food. -
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Sassy at 07/02/2008 4:43:53 PM
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I'm sure the editor was just trying to be cute with the tagline "Why kill the cow when you can make the milk for free?" however, they do not kill the cow to get milk. In fact, farmers go through a great deal of work to make their milk cows as comfortable as possible. Right now, many are installing "waterbeds" in their loafing areas to minimize accidents when their cows lay down on the concrete floors. Cows who have access to the waterbeds produce up to 500 pounds more milk a year. That being said, the tofu milk sounds interesting and I'll have to give it a try. I know others that pour apple juice on their cereal instead of milk. -
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tnunez at 07/02/2008 4:39:29 PM
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to mike280:
less intestinal tract? humans have a LONG intestinal tract (meat begins to rot almost right away - colon cancer is much more prevalent for those humans who eat meat than for vegetarians or vegans). And, compared to true carnivores, people have/are: (1) to chew their food thoroughly and digest it more slowly (2) very poor vision (3) very slow moving (4) do not have talons nor fangs. We can't use our "natural" bodies to hunt - we would be unsucessful - we need contraptions. Stop fighting your natures - we were meant to plant and forage. The occasional fish? Might have been a good idea at one point, but with mercury levels and over-fishing the way they are today - plus antibiotic-ridden factory farmed fish - no thanks. -
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tnunez at 07/02/2008 4:32:59 PM
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to eumesmo and others:
That white thing vegans call milk is called breastmilk. If we drank giraffe milk or dog milk, people would find that odd. The milk animals (including the human animal) produce is for their infants. As a baby, you certainly need milk. As an adult, you don't need any. It is very odd to drink the milk other mammals intended or their own young. Other drinks we ingest as adults are called "milk" because they are extracted from things - for example, coconut milk. -
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jknichols at 07/02/2008 4:30:17 PM
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I am not a vegetarian. I LOVE meat and eat plenty of it. But every once in a while I go through an "I need to start eating healthier" stage and head off to the supermarket to stock up on healthy fruits and vegetables only to be quickly discouraged by the cost. I find it more expensive to buy two weeks worth of produce than the meats that I love, not to mention how quickly it spoils. I often wonder how do vegans afford to eat!
There's plenty of room of all of God's creatures...
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SlimKim at 07/02/2008 4:27:20 PM
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I don't think its possible to be a "low-budget" vegan. But what do I know? I don't even grocery shop as I go into shock when I see the cost of food. Great article nonetheless. -
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tnunez at 07/02/2008 4:26:55 PM
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to mike280 and others:
"meat needs less digestion, thus needing less intestinal tract"...we (humans have an enormous intestinal tract compared to true carnivores such as cats. true carnivores eat their meat in huge bites, barely chewing it. they swallow portions live and whole. it passes quickly through their short intestinal tracts (this is necessary because you don't want something like meat rotting in there) and out. humans need to chew our food quite thoroughly and actually digest vegetable protein more quickly and it (vegetable protein) can stay in our tracts for longer with no problem. Those who eat meat have more issues with their intestinal tracts and higher rates of colon cancer than do vegans or vegetarians. This is not junk science - it is widely accepted by nutritionists. On the anectodal side, however, we really don't have the strength and agility of other carnivores - nor do we have the teeth, tallons or eyesight of true carnivores. We weren't meant to hunt down food - we use all kinds of contraptions to do it - defeating our true natures. we were meant to plant and forage and our long intestines, short fingers that are talon-less and our poor eyesight and lack of carnivore-like teeth, as well as our very slow speed, demonstrate this. Stop fighting it - it is better for your health, better for the environment and certainly better for those you eat - don't act like a pseudo carnivore - we are vegetarians...or better, vegans, by nature. eating an occasional fish? might have been great at one point, but not with the mercury levels and overfishing that occur today (and antibiotics present in farm-raised fish). It is okay - you can do it even without following the advice in this article. You can do it and still be a "man". You can build muscle without animal protein. Many athletes, personal trainers and bodybuilders are vegan, by the way. Just look it up. -
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eumesmo at 07/02/2008 4:26:30 PM
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If you are really about saving pennies on food which I think is not a wise decision make sure you sacrifice only your nutrition not that of your children. You can kill a child if you substitute mil for that white thing vegans call "milk". The quotes here make a huge difference . Remember that couple who were convicted of murder in Florida for feeding their baby this "milk" and apple juice. -
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eumesmo at 07/02/2008 4:25:55 PM
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eumesmo at 07/02/2008 4:21:56 PM
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If you are really about saving pennies on food which I think is not a wise decision make sure you sacrifice only your nutrition not that of your children. You can kill a child if you substitute mil for that white thing vegans call "milk". The quotes here make a huge difference . Remember that couple who were convicted of murder in Florida for feeding their baby this "milk" and apple juice.-
Posted By:
bether at 07/02/2008 6:13:50 PM
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eumesmo - millions of babies born to parents who eat meat end up using soy based infant formula because they can't digest the cow's milk based kind. The death of that child had nothing to do with the parents being vegan and everything to do with the parents being idiots. If you feed a baby milk and apple juice instead of formula, it will die, no matter what kind of MILK it is - nothing but cow milk and apple juice will kill a baby just as fast as soy milk and juice, because MILK IS NOT INFANT FORMULA. It says so right on the cartons.
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Lifeflame at 07/02/2008 4:20:32 PM
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Sweet!!! That is a fantastic idea. Thanks fo shareing it.
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animalactivist8 at 07/02/2008 4:05:57 PM
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slashjpbar-
then grow soy on your farm.......is anyone home up there
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Posted By:
Mike280 at 07/02/2008 4:00:36 PM
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Why is it that Vegan's and Vegetarians have to disguise their food? Why do you try to make a tofu burger taste like a real burger? Why need soy milk that looks and tastes like real milk? Shouldn't you be embracing what's different than eating normally, rather than trying to make it similar? Just keep in mind that if you believe in evolution, it was the conversion to eating meat that allowed our ancestors to increase their brain surface-area (making them smarter) and stand upright (meat is a more efficient form of energy and needs less digestion, thus needing less intestinal tract).-
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animalactivist8 at 07/02/2008 4:12:59 PM
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mike- you dont have a clue what you are talking about. meat is the leadign cause of disease in our country as well as the reason why our youth are developing earlier (i will save you the scientific explanation on the effects of growth hormone). Also, we were not designed to eat meat (animals that were eat it raw.....that would make us sick. we have to cook it thoroughly at high temps.....) also, meat is digested soo slowly in the intestinal tract that it literally rots before it's passed. Produce is all fiber and digested very quickly. If that doesn't make you go vegan I don't know what will.....-
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Mike280 at 07/02/2008 4:19:14 PM
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Meat can be produced organically too (no hormones, no antibiotics, etc). Did you know that if you eat enough broccoli it can kill you? Too many carrots can give you vitamin A poisoning (also deadly). The point that I'm trying to make is that moderation is the key. The food pyramid was developed by a lot of smart people (I'd like to believe), and yes, eat fruit and lots of vegetables; but don't forget about getting your vitamin B12 (only synthesized in animal tissue).-
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urbanaries at 07/07/2008 3:22:04 PM
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Um, the food pyramid was built by lobbyists $$$$$ who also convinced the US gov't to subsidize enough cheese and milk to make our kids start developing ADULT diabetes. Awesome! -
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happie2bnappie at 07/02/2008 5:34:24 PM
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Spirulina and other seaweed provide adequate amounts of B12.......
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Posted By:
Mirecall at 07/02/2008 3:47:08 PM
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Dear mdesorme,
I guess you never heard what the Irish went through when they came to this country. People would rather have a hired a black person over an irish Immigrant. Read up on your history.-
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bether at 07/02/2008 6:09:59 PM
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@mirecall
"guess you never heard what the Irish went through when they came to this country." UM, exactly. The Irish CAME TO THIS COUNTRY. CAME. Not "were captured, chained, and forced to come here as slaves."
Dear My Fellow White People: get it through your remarkably thick skulls. Yes, pretty much every immigrant group that ever came here was tormented and discriminated against by the previously established ethnic groups. But that is not even close to being the same thing as what was done to the African people brought here in the slave trade. IT IS NOT THE SAME THING. Do black people a favor and close your mouths, because no matter how much opression you have read about your ancestors experiencing, you don't have anything to say about their experience. It is not even close. And do the rest of us white people a favor and close your mouths, because you are embarrassing us with your ignorance and narcissism.
Topic? Making "makeshift" soymilk from tofu is an awesome idea. I'll have to try it!
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Mirecall at 07/02/2008 3:45:17 PM
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Dear mdesorme,
I guess you never heard what the Irish went through when they came to this country. People would rather have a hired a black person over an irish Immagrant. Read up on your history.-
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bether at 07/02/2008 6:06:52 PM
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"guess you never heard what the Irish went through when they came to this country." UM, exactly. The Irish CAME TO THIS COUNTRY. CAME. Not "were captured, chained, and forced to come here as slaves."
Dear My Fellow White People: get it through your remarkably thick skulls. Yes, pretty much every immigrant group that ever came here was tormented and discriminated against by the previously established ethnic groups. But that is not even close to being the same thing as what was done to the African people brought here in the slave trade. Those that weren't kidnapped and brought here as slaves (not "low wage workers" or "had to take all the crappy jobs and live in bad neighborhoods" - SLAVES) had their country and culture ruined by the missionaries and imperialists who stayed behind. IT IS NOT THE SAME THING. Do black people a favor and close your mouths, because no matter how much opression you have read about your ancestors experiencing, you don't have anything to say about their experience. It is not the same. It is not even close. And do the rest of us white people a favor and close your mouths, because you are embarrassing us with your ignorance and narcissism.
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doseydoemrs at 07/02/2008 3:39:52 PM
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wildbynature----great post! Ignorance is preventable. -
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dianome at 07/02/2008 3:39:28 PM
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PETA = Please Eat the Animals.... -
Posted By:
farmerbrown at 07/02/2008 3:33:53 PM
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You people are stupid. You are just now figuring this out? People have been doing this for thousands of years.... it is called FARMING..... Ya bunch of dummies!!!! I am with the dairy farmer. The livestock eat better than we do!-
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wildbynature at 07/02/2008 3:42:23 PM
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Farmer Brown- reading is important... I am a law student, I can say without any failure of reality that my intelligence is not really a question. On the other hand, you as an apparent dairy farmer are trying to convince blog readers to embrace your product by telling us how unintelligent WE are. Um, the mirrors in most people's homes are in their bathrooms... try looking in one to figure out your purpose and whether it is attainable here.
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wildbynature at 07/02/2008 3:31:20 PM
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mdesorme, your statement is disconcerting. I am certain this blog is to educate, embrace and empower. But your statement regarding caucasians being excluded on an institutional level is incorrect. Please review some history books, not just american history, world history. My people were not only excluded, they were annihilated on a mass level and people from every corner of the globe look at my ancestors, branded like farm animals, like we are dirt below their shoes. I digress... I was a vegetarian for 10 years. Mixed results, not for me anymore due to a medical conditon (hypoglycemia), law school and single motherhood. But in today's economy, all of us have an opportunity to return to the earth to get our nutrition... grain, vegetables, soy... without racial epithets meant to continue a separation of people rather than rejoicing and learning (yes, learning) about who we all are -- God gave us a beautiful earth to feed our bodies we are responsible for ourselves and each other to feed our souls and minds... mdesorme- we all have the right to speak, the Constitution may have been late in getting all of us on the same footing, but we are here... May God, however we define the experience, bless all of us in our attempt to nurture ourselves... the article is great. I for one used to "create" numerous conconctions in my mother's kitchen as a child because we never had money for snacks ("...and they're bad for you anyway...") cinnamon toast, peanut butter and honey (sorry, vegans- might be good with molasses) on toast or rice crackers and on and on... necessity is the motherhood of invention... a great trick is to literally choose not to food shop for a week (spend the money on something else) and dig through your freezer and pantry. Or more creativity (and very healthy) only buy the food at the market that is "around the edges" the center aisles are all processed. The "edges" require refrigeration and are almost always fresh products... :) -
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farmerbrown at 07/02/2008 3:30:26 PM
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You people are stupid. People have been doing this for thousands of years; it is called FARMING...... Ya Jackass.....-
Posted By:
makafe at 07/02/2008 4:20:06 PM
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Great argument...NOT! Just because something has been done for thousands of years doesn't make it good or right. Slavery has been around since the beginning of time. That doesn't make it right. The oppression of women dates way, way back. Still doesn't make it right. All kinds of negative things have occurred for ages....lying, stealing, adultery, corruption, murder. Just because something has been done for a long time doesn't mean it's beneficial for it to continue.
However, just as slave owners justified their source of free labor, many people continue to condone the torture and murder of animals for their dining pleasure.
"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields."
-- Leo Tolstoy, author
"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."
-- Leonardo da Vinci, artist and scientist
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Posted By:
babaldy at 07/02/2008 3:19:21 PM
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Vegan in all around ways is cheaper than non vegan,period.If you are like many that cannot do without dead animals to chew on there are some good alternatives,as a rep I must say Global Village offers delicious meat substitutes made of soy,they are dehydrated and can feed a family for a month or longer on about $30, they taste like dead animals and steak. For years a milk substitute has been made with cornstarch and water(flan) and works in a pinch. -
Posted By:
123winner at 07/02/2008 3:16:37 PM
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mdesorme,
I am so glad you said "poo-pooing"...I almost fell out of my chair! :) -
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slashjpbar at 07/02/2008 3:14:36 PM
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Haha. Vegan. Its people like you who lose dairymen thousands of dollars a year to your "animal-saving" ways. My family has been in the dairy industry for more than thirty years, and I know for a fact that dairy cattle are some of the most pampered creatures on this planet. Unlimited food supply, good water, shelter in bad weather, and they are milked and washed up to three times a day with harmless equipment in a clean environment. So when you buy your soy products, remember that somewhere in the Southwest you are taking food out of a young child's mouth because their father can't afford to feed him.-
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animalactivist8 at 07/02/2008 4:02:02 PM
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then grow soy on your farm......anyone home up there.
How can you live with yourself using blood money to feed your kids anyways?
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slashjpbar at 07/02/2008 3:08:53 PM
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Haha. Vegan. Its people like you who lose dairymen thousands of dollars a year to your "animal-saving" habits. My family has been in the dairy industry for more than thirty years and never have I seen more of a waste of milk and other dairy products. Dairy cattle are some of the most pampered of all industry-utilized animals, whether you belive it or not. Facts are there. -
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doseydoemrs at 07/02/2008 2:55:25 PM
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To those of you who advocate the S.A.D.(Standard American Diet), please don't come here and bash the author. We as Americans are killing ourselves because of a lack of knowledge about health and wellness. Take notes about hemp, almond, rice, soy and other alternative MILK sources. A lot of common illnesses such as heart disease, high cholesterol and certain cancers could be eradicated if meat and dairy were bypassed. Read "The China Study". -
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mdesorme at 07/02/2008 2:50:28 PM
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White victim, you sound like a whiny brat. I am sorry you were bullied as a child, but you should not comparing your experiences to the creation of this blog. White people never had to deal with beig excluded on an institutional level. Whole systems were established to make sure African Americans don't succeed in simple freedoms that White Americans have always enjoyed. This blog is a way to empower African Americans and you're poo pooing it. How about this option? Don't read it -
Posted By:
chieromancer at 07/02/2008 2:29:40 PM
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You can buy soy milk makers for about $100. If that's too rich for your blood, you can make rice milk or almond milk with nothing more than a blender.
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chieromancer at 07/02/2008 2:27:51 PM
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You can buy soy milk makers for about $100. If that's too rich for your blood, you can make rice milk and almond milk with nothing more than a blender.
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makafe at 07/02/2008 2:11:52 PM
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kjc03 at 07/02/2008 1:31:34 PM
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"Why Kill the Cow"?? You don't kill cows to get milk, you nitwit.
Actually...there's a lot of killing involved in the dairly industry. Cows need to have given birth and be lactating in order to give milk. So think about it...what happens to the male calves after they're born? They get sent to slaughter as veal after enduring weeks of torment in cramped veal crates because only 1 bull is need per herd. Female calves fare only slightly better, but they may be slaughtered early on for the rennet (used in cheese production) in their stomachs. Otherwise, female calves may grow up to replace the older females. And what do you think happens to the cow when she can no longer get pregnant/give milk? She also goes to the slaughterhouse. So although the cow may be safe for a short time, she eventually gets slaughtered too - a byproduct of milk production, or in her case, lack of milk production. Sadly, dairy farming is a cruel industry - closely related to and not much better than the meat industry. -
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kjc03 at 07/02/2008 1:31:34 PM
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"Why Kill the Cow"?? You don't kill cows to get milk, you nitwit.-
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happie2bnappie at 07/02/2008 1:37:11 PM
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Thank you for your interest. Although PETA is known for handling animal activist issues, feel free to visit milksucks.com for more information regarding how cows are harmed in the process of ???milking.??? To knowledge????????????
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Enough Already at 07/02/2008 1:23:51 PM
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Ender at 07/02/2008 1:16:18 PM
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This is silly. "Hemp milk is about $4.00 per 32 ounce container". That means you are paying $16 dollars a gallon for you special milk. Regular milk is $3 dollars a gallon. People who are not vegetarian are definitely not paying more for a gallong of milk. -
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LargoX2033X at 07/02/2008 12:46:05 PM
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there is a black vegetarian society? why bring color into somethng like that.. and people wonder why this issue will never die.-
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whitevictim at 07/02/2008 2:17:12 PM
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I agree completely. The Root is racist towards white people and it is a joke that this site gets links from sites that are respected (like MSN and Slate). Every time black people form a group that is exclusive, they remind us all that white people are now the second class citizens (third class?) I am white and have experienced reversed racism since I was a tiny kid growing up in California, way before I could have possible done anything racist to the kindergartners I was forced by busing to go to school with. They ganged up and beat us up every single day, any chance they got. Who speaks for me and the other white people who have suffered their whole lives at the hands of blacks who have convinced themselves that all the hatred they spew towards white people (with whom they have no PERSONAL grievance) is somehow justified by percieved wrongs done to them? Someday it may be black people who are apologizing to white people. Probably not though, since their culture of victimhood is now ingrained in their DNA. -
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happie2bnappie at 07/02/2008 1:30:14 PM
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There are several. Feel free to check out http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6521564 for more information as to why these organizations exist.
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nazmaah at 07/02/2008 12:42:15 PM
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Unfazed...did you read the article before you wrote your 2 cents down? She did not say she drinks COWS MILK....read before you comment!!
"Hemp milk is about $4.00 per 32 ounce container in Northern Virginia where I live. I've heard that those who are not vegetarian are paying even more for a gallon of milk! " -
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nazmaah at 07/02/2008 12:38:10 PM
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TooUnfazed...did you read the article...she said HEMP MILK....read before you make comments. -
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Mike the girl at 07/02/2008 12:37:05 PM
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Hoecakes (also called johnny cakes) get their name from being cooked on the flat metal farm implement. They are not named after the mispronunciation of the word whore. Illustrations showing asian and european peasants, cowboys, sharecroppers, and others cooking flat bread over a fire with their farm implements standing in for stoves and pans exist. The poor have always "made do" in ways that we should not only admirable, but should emulate. Great article!-
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happie2bnappie at 07/02/2008 1:03:43 PM
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Thank you for sharing, this forum is great. We were wondering where the names originated. A griot in our midst....
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Wouldn'tYouLikeToKnow:) at 07/02/2008 12:35:27 PM
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TooUnfazed at 07/02/2008 12:32:44 PM
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Why on earth would a "vegan" look for cow's milk in her fridge? You ain't no vegan, dear. Else you'd have some soybeans and a Korean soy milk maker in your kitchen. That costs only pennies per gallon so there's no need to whine about the cost. Jeez! -
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Roosh at 07/02/2008 11:20:50 AM
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Except for the fact that her tofu, dates, and banana probably cost more than the price of just grabbing some milk.-
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happie2bnappie at 07/02/2008 1:14:52 PM
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Thanks for bring that point up. Cost is just one half of the issue. Ever wonder why so many people are walking around dis-eased? Feel free to purchase books by Dr. Afrika or even read material for free at dherbs.com regarding milk/meat consumption. To healthy living......
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radiantsoul at 07/02/2008 12:05:23 AM
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Just another reason for the production of more HEMP in this country. We all know that Hemp products are not only practical but also are environmentally friendly. Mother nature is always providing exactly what we need, but big business wants to do the unnatural processing of our food. Our children would benefit more from drinking HEMP milk than the milk they are drinking now! -
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Yogamama at 07/01/2008 10:07:09 PM
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If you'd like to go really low budget, then ditch your habbit of using store-bought cereal. Even the cheapest brand is far more expensive than whole grains that humanity used for ages. Depending on the grain type a pound of organic whole grains will set you back from 89c to $2.49. Once cooked they'll increase in weight and volume, so you'll get even more food for your buck. It takes one part of grains (buckwheat, barley, millet, oats or quinoa), two parts of water, a pinch of salt and 20 minutes of patience (that's how long you need to simmer grains in water) to make a wholesome hot cereal alternative. No milk is required. Furthermore, adding a few cubes of tofu and buttenut squash to millet makes it the most delicious breakfast that will keep your energy level up for long. For those ones who have a sweet tooth cooking oats with rasins will do the trick.-
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happie2bnappie at 07/02/2008 12:07:26 AM
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Awesome points! I also love the versatility that quinoa and millet offer. You can have either as breakfast cereals in the morning or with some veggies as an evening meal. They both are my favorites in the winter time. I find myself eating them more than oatmeal. Kamut is the off-brand cereal that was unnamed. It is only $1.39 a bag in most local health food stores. In addition to being reasonable, it too is one of the "ancient" grains. Its nutritional value is incredible. It boasts eight of nine minerals and a high percentage of amino acids (although when our bodies are functioning properly it creates its own amino acids) and satisfies individuals that are concerned about protein. Kamut is described as "the high energy grain" because it produces more energy that carbohydrates; which is essential as I train for the City of Oaks half-marathon.
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Mekejele4 at 07/01/2008 7:41:42 PM
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I am not a milk drinker. I am often laughed at by my immediate family because I will literally wet my cereal with a few tablespoons of milk to just "wet" my cereal. I prefer almond milk. So imagine my excitement when I read the creative way to enjoy cereal. Thanks.-
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happie2bnappie at 07/01/2008 9:55:01 PM
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Oh good idea! Thanks for mentioning almonds. You can do the same with them although some prefer not to utilize almonds or soy (they both are controversial). Once I began, I was on a roll. I tried the recipe with left over rice and even unsalted sunflower seeds. I learned the sunflower seed recipe from one of my elders who'd given me tips on how to improve my smoothies. He and his wife invited me over once to show me how to make "real" smoothies. :) ???Milk??? recipes can be used in any recipe that requires ???milk.??? I have even used them to make vegan mac and cheese.
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Prunk at 07/01/2008 5:38:18 PM
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I am really disappointed by the quality of the writing on this website. I was led here by a few links from Slate, and now I feel like I'm reading high school essays. Is there an explanation on this website, from the editors perhaps, as to why the writers have tossed aside the language of journalism?
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FrankTrapasso at 07/01/2008 3:51:19 PM
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That's some tasty awesomeness. Do you have a recipe with amounts written up?
I don't write mine until after cooking, but some idea of the proportions would be helpful.-
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happie2bnappie at 07/01/2008 10:00:36 PM
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Let's see, if you are making soy milk, utilize half of the block. Add about 2 cups of water and 3-4 dates. Then blend it all together. If it is too thick for your liking, feel free to add water. Enjoy!-
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FrankTrapasso at 07/01/2008 11:19:57 PM
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happie2bnappie at 07/01/2008 10:03:38 PM
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I almost forgot, in lieu of dates, you may always sweeten with agave, stevia, or maple syrup.
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FrankTrapasso at 07/01/2008 3:50:18 PM
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That sounds darn tasty. Do you have a recipe with the proportions? I'm unfamiliar with this type of recipe and want to follow one before I freestyle. -
Posted By:
DJ 3RD-EYE at 07/01/2008 3:44:49 PM
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Peace. The Author obviously did not just venture into this area of eating (Vegan or Vegetarian). They clearly have amassed great knowledge-data pertaining to that which is necessary to fulfill one's palate - even if the norm is not available. It is quite impressive to even fathom possessing the know-how to put together "MILK" from scratch.
...build a space ship from TOFU and broccoli?
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DJ 3RD-EYE at 07/01/2008 3:43:34 PM
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Peace. The Author obviously did not just venture into this area of eating (Vegan or Vegetarian). They clearly have amassed great knowledge-data pertaining to that which is necessary to fulfill one's palate - even if the norm is not available. It is quite impressive to even fathom possessing the know-how to put together "MILK" from scratch.
...build a space ship from TOFU and broccoli?
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bdixie at 07/01/2008 12:42:48 PM
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Your article was entertaining as well as informative. I enjoyed your creativity and look forward to more writings. -
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bdixie at 07/01/2008 12:41:05 PM
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This really a great article. It showa that you are very creative. I look to see more of your writings. BDixie@comcast.net -
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solesvl at 07/01/2008 10:18:38 AM
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Great article, Sadiya. Since joining a gym a few months ago, I've really been trying to change my health habits. The exercise is going great, but my eating habils still need some work. I appreciate any ideas like the ones you've suggested in your article, to help me eat better and live better. And saving money at the same time... it's all good! Keep writing.
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SMS at 07/01/2008 9:25:29 AM
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This is a great idea! This recipe is cost effective, taste great, and an excellent way to insure that you have several servings of fruits. Thanks, Saydia, I look forward to other innovative, great tasting, and cost effective recopies from you.
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SMS at 07/01/2008 9:24:12 AM
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This is a great idea! This recipe is cost effective, taste great, and an excellent way to insure that you have several servings of fruits. Thanks, Sadiya,, I look forward to other innovative, great tasting, and cost effective recopies from you.
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ch555x at 07/01/2008 9:03:03 AM
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Only a select few of my groceries are name-brand items. Store or private brands are the way to go (cheaper, tastes just as good). -
Posted By:
Sagacious at 07/01/2008 5:40:50 AM
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Excellent Article!!
Thought-provoking and creative.
I am sharing this Article with all my e-mail family!
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Sagacious at 07/01/2008 5:39:08 AM
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Excellent Article!!
Very enlightening . . .
I am sharing this Article with everyone i know!
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happie2bnappie at 06/30/2008 9:54:19 PM
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Tofu Milk-no such thing.....It's called Soy Milk.
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BVSGA at 06/30/2008 7:09:49 PM
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Sister Sadiya's article demonstrates the creativity that a number of vegans employ on a daily basis.
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BVSGA at 06/30/2008 7:08:16 PM
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Sister Sadiya's article demonstrates the creativity that a number of vegans employ on a daily basis.
Traci Thomas, a health and fitness event planner, founder of The Black Vegetarian Society of Georgia and Wholistic Travel Club, www.BVSGA.org, www.WholisticTravelClubc.com-
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jknichols at 07/02/2008 3:55:46 PM
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I am not a vegetarian. I LOVE meat and eat plenty of it. But every once in a while I go through an "I need to start eating healthier" stage and head off to the supermarket to stock up on healthy fruits and vegetables only to be quickly discouraged by the cost. I find it more expensive to buy two weeks worth of produce than the meats that I love, not to mention how quickly it spoils. I often wonder how do vegans afford to eat!
There's plenty of room of all of God's creatures...
Right next to the mashed potatoes!
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