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Posted By:
DownLoBro at 06/24/2008 3:51:16 PM
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Here in Philadelphia, some 90% of children born to Black girls will never know their father. Why? Because the mothers themselves do not know. Like ALL girls (Black or White) who have babies they want someone to love them unconditionally so they get pregnant by sleeping with multiple men (just look at Maury Povich).
These men would never step forward anyway, as the courts will make them pay for 18 years of rearing with little or no rights, but in this case concern. -
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DownLoBro at 06/24/2008 3:47:48 PM
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Here in Philadelphia, some 90% of children born to Black girls will never know their father. Why? Because the mothers themselves do not know. Like ALL girls who have babies they want someone to love them unconditionally so they get pregnant by sleeping with multiple men (just look at Maury Povich).
The men will never step forward, as the courts will make them pay for 18 years of rearing with little or no rights, but in this case concern. -
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crazyjerseygirl at 06/24/2008 12:47:06 PM
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I've said it once and I'll say it again. Read Dr. Stephan Jay Gould's The Mismeasure of Man, and don't fear chapter 6!
He was an extremely respected palentologist and evolutionary scientist who (among other things) disproved the notion of intelligence testing. The book was written in the early 80's and re-released in the mid 90's. I can only wish that he was still around to re-re-release it after Dr. Watson's comments on race last year.
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nate32x at 06/23/2008 3:18:40 PM
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For the sake of argument, accepting the extremely dubious and unsourced assumption that a previous poster's (joe14580) statistics are correct regarding IQ (as if there are pollsters that measures IQ categorized into "white nations" and "black nations"), only a truly myopic and ignorant individual would assert that IQ directly equals "intelligence" and that is correlated to the success of nation-states.
In other words, you are full of it, ya big dummy.
More seriously, if any good can come out this ignorant post, it is an opportunity to think about different types of intelligence, and how a society can be successful using both left brain (IQ tests) and right brain thinking, when both are needed. -
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joe14580 at 06/22/2008 9:13:59 AM
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White nations are better than black nations because they're inherently more intelligent. And for god's sake, don't call me a racist. Before you respond with some kneejerk denial, do your homework, it's true. It may not be PC, but it's true. The average is about 10-15 IQ points but (apprently) it makes enough of a difference. It doesn't make whites "better", but it allows them to develop more as individuals and nations. -
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JustinMackson at 06/21/2008 4:46:45 PM
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We have to stop asking for hand-outs and start giving back to our communities and building stronger ties with Africa and other nations in our best interest. -
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JustinMackson at 06/21/2008 4:45:03 PM
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If you believe that the US Government did not have an effect on Black Families and the absent black fathers simply look at the Tuskgegee Expriement. YOU have to ask one question why are all the White nations of the world better than the Non-White nations. The government of all nations are inputting there control on non white families. Its the basics to divide and conquer. America is no different than the rest of the White world. We just live in America. How to fix this problem? Black women respect your men and Black men respect your women regardless of how many you have, and be in all your childrens lives. We came to the country as muslims, multiple wives were apart of that religion, but so was being a father to all your children. Its that simple. NO body can hold you down forever.-
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DownLoBro at 06/24/2008 3:57:45 PM
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Let's stop blaming everypne else and take responsibility for our own mistakes. If you are so unhappy here go back to mother Africa. As for me, I choose to stay, play and enjoy the american life. I educated MYSELF and even made friends with the "White Devils" who have turned out to be much more reliable than my so called "brotha's"
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JustinMackson at 06/21/2008 4:38:44 PM
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To any one listening -
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dredscott at 06/20/2008 2:00:22 AM
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Lina Mone't making comments which blame slavery for lack of black fathers actually helps the white racists. Slavery ended back 143 years ago, and so according to Lina Mone't, blacks are so inferior that after 143 years they can't get over the supposed 'abandonment' of strong blacks being torn from their families. (The historians research on this 'abandonment' shows it was uncommon and slave owners in general sought to keep families intact. See Fogel "Time on the Cross" and Gutman "The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925."
On that note, I think Whitey is geting tired of blacks blaming slavery for black america's problems being that slavery ended 143 years ago. And one of these days, I'm afraid that Whitey is going to get so fed up with blacks demands for slave reparations that he's going to give us each $50,000 and a one-way ticket to Mogadishu... -
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Lina Mone't at 06/17/2008 11:31:02 AM
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By the late 1980s, only 42 percent of 18- and 19-year-old mothers were married when they gave birth. That only skims the surface, this fact does not even mention all ages, only teens. -
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mhammers2 at 06/17/2008 10:38:57 AM
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Lina, your history is off. The increase in absent fathers in the black community didn't start until the 1980s, not 1780s. The breakdown of families has more to do with crack cocaine, high incarceration rates, and dwindling industrial jobs than slavery. In 1980 the rate of unwed mothers was only 15% - now it's 75%. Blacks in the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s would have been scandalized by this statistic, just like anyone else. We cannot change this trend until we focus on the real issues: a lack of jobs and drugs. -
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Lina Mone't at 06/17/2008 10:16:33 AM
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Not to make excuses or anything but I think that people should know the heritage of the so called "abandonment". In the days of slavery, many many strong black slaves were torn from the families that they had established with their significant others to be traded and sold to other plantations because the slave masters thought that if they could procreate with other women among the plantations that they would inturn give birth to other strong slave babies and thus grow into strong slave men and women that could work hard for them. The trauma of being separated time and time again began to make the male slaves pride themselves on how many different children he had with how many different women on the various plantations thus beginning an epidemic that black people have been trying to fight for years and years. So I ask you if you don't have the recipe for how to be a father how can you make it? As a woman I plan to fight this stigma by being wise in my choice of who I have a relationship with and doing all that I can to prevent being a "baby mama". -
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Lina Mone't at 06/17/2008 10:03:17 AM
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Not making any excuses at all for fathers who abandon their families, but I just think that people should know the genetics and the heritage of this so called "abandonment". In the days of slavery, strong black male slaves were snatched and traded from the families and homes that they built with there significant others because the slave masters figured that if they could get them to procreate with the other women on other plantations, that they would have strong slave babies that would grow into strong slave men and women. In turn, this tragedy began to make the male slaves pride themselves on how many children he had by how many women on the various plantations. Thus making it hard to fight the battle against broken black families. If one does not have a good example of what a father is he will have difficulty being one, but it takes a compassionate man to understand and make strides to stop the "fatherless" repitition. How can someone bake a cake with out the recipe? -
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dcowart at 06/16/2008 9:34:46 AM
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Simply put, America act with surprise with the epidemic they created-destruction of the black family unit. Of course, WE took over for America by continuing to produce, feed and extend this epidemic by creating more and more single mother household. The only way to STOP this madness is for US as a RACE to mature and become responsible MEN and WOMEN. Women, the responsiblity does not end with raising the child (because you have no choice) by yourself. The responsiblity is YOUR to make the right choice in choosing a man to MARRY first and to have children with SECOND. If you are going to have pre-martial sex, PLEASE have PROTECTED pre-maritial sex. That way if two people breakup, there is still two people and not three or four people-A mom, a baby/babies, and man not ready to face his responsibility. -
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dcowart at 06/16/2008 9:21:51 AM
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Wow, I don't know where to start with my comments! I don't know which is worst, the reactions I get when I out in town WITH MY KIDS from people both black and (especially) white, who act as though they have just witnessed a strange phenomenon or the reaction from blacks who whine and moan when WE as a race are forced to confront this issue as a people. Let's face it, for every guy like me who actively participate in the raising of our children, there is probably 5 to 6 black men who choose not to. As Public Enemy's Chuck D. stated in one their rap song: With a black father in in a black home, all the "B.S." Stops! What that means is that black children who come from homes with both the mother and father in the home tend to turn out alot better than children with single parents. I am not special in any way. I am simply a man who trying to live up to his responsiblity as both a man and a father. It society who choose to add my race to this equation.
Daron Cowart -
Posted By:
RLJdc2008 at 06/16/2008 9:00:17 AM
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To know and not to do is truly not to know. -
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RLJdc2008 at 06/16/2008 8:59:58 AM
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To know and not to do is truly not to know. -
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nfamous at 06/15/2008 12:05:46 PM
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Black men instinctively know how to be good fathers. We just don't do it because we're too busy trying to become famous, rich so we can live like white people. If black people had our own land like we were promised then you would not see so many black single mothers. Most black women do not understand what black men go through trying to make a living and are very unsupportive. When that happens everything else falls apart because black men need loving and caring black women to be able to deal with white racism in productive ways.-
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RLJdc2008 at 06/16/2008 9:01:08 AM
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to know and not to do is truly not to know-
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dredscott at 06/20/2008 2:10:41 AM
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nfamous, thanks for implying that blacks are so stupid, lazy and inferior that because Whitey didn't give them 40 acres and a mule 143 years ago, they can't get over that fact and move on. That's just the evidence the white racists need. The white racists can say, "Hey look, we shouldn't have freed the slaves after all, because after 143 years they still can't make it." Nfamous, since you can't get an education and a job in order to find some black woman to love and care for you, then how about you go get yourself a white massa. Sure you might get a whippin or two if you get surly, but Massa would email another Massa with a nice loving caring black woman, and breed you two so he could have more slaves to work his farms. The massa's would like that, then he could send the illegal Mexicans back across the border because they have to pay them $2.00 an hour and massa's don't always know how to speak Mexican. If you work real hard for a few years, Massa maybe would promote you to work in the Big House.-
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DownLoBro at 06/24/2008 4:02:16 PM
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That is actually great advice to all those that have been handed jobs. WORK makes us move forward not crying about the past. I am embattased by my race when I read stupid things like this.
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