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Breaking the Glass Ceiling Takes Grace

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    neb33 at 07/12/2008 9:26:11 PM
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    Thanks to you, I plan on reading this book as well as exploring more fairy tales at the advice of Albert Einstein. Character and grace mean so much; "experience" is not an excuse to run a vicious campaign.
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    cmcdonald2003 at 06/06/2008 12:26:25 AM
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    I wanted to comment on two points. First, aside from Veronica's article, the title of the article is word for word literally ridiculous. Everyone, let us really look at and discuss just what is being said to readers here with: "Breaking the Glass Ceiling Takes Grace". Aside from the article, those words in that one line are frankly unacceptable. Those words put in that order in that line would be the equivalent of saying something along the line of/sending the message of "breaking the hold of all 'isms' must be done with finesse before they are even addressed by patriarchal constructed systems". What nonsense. The underlying tone of the title, although the article discusses or utilizes a child's name/a child's book, still leaves readers with a bad taste or bad impression that only by being "nice" can women in future millenia become accepted as equals--maybe. The issue: The article's title hooks readers by way of a twisted meaning and uses a child's name/a child's book as subterfuge.
    Secondly, on another point, aside from the learning curve and mistakes that were made, I think a big "thank you" note is appropriate for Hillary. As a woman (who sets aside the race issue about being yellow, red, purple, brown, black, pink, or white) I am proud of Hillary, despite her mistakes (gee, let's see how many did I make myself today, Lord???), for staying in the race the entire time, for running the entire male gauntlet. History notes very, very few men (a handful) in American history (since women could even vote) have withstood/run the entire presidential gauntlet race through to convention time, and have customarily quite often quit merely 1-5 months after their "announcement". Hillary not only gave us our first serious, credible and incredible woman candidate for the President of the United States, but she stuck out the entire gauntlet. Thank you for not being a quitter Hillary Rodham Clinton. Thank you for not quitting on America, your family, or yourself. Good job. Thank you for setting a good business campaign example for future women who will likewise have to also walk/run all through the male gauntlets that are undoubtedly still ahead and which are made of many hurtful things besides merely glass.
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      sixgems at 06/06/2008 12:36:01 AM
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      CMC- Excellent!!!! I echo and support your sentiments as a black woman who also applauds what Hillary has accomplished as a female candidate in a "boys" game. Warts and all.
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    sixgems at 06/05/2008 2:48:48 PM
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    Veronica in the end I believe the Dem primary was a contest of "personality" and as such Hillary was sorely lacking in the race against Obama. I for one, a black woman, raising a young daughter was very conflicted throughout. I DESPERATELY wanted to see a woman rise to the occasion of this nomination and office yet Hillary just could not do it. Throughout the election my daughter and I had many conversations about the candidates (she LOVES Obama by the way) and the merits of each candidate. I am grateful to the Obama legacy for sure for the hope and aspiration that it has and will continue to provide my daughter in terms of the "possibilities" for her life. Yet at the same time I am very much saddened by the MANY sexisms that emerged throughout this race which were too often camouflaged by the assertion that it was just because Hill was "trifling" as you said. Oh yes there was sexism here- and it bothers me greatly because I have a daughter who I want to be the Grace for President one day if she chooses. Yet I wonder when we as a nation will get to that level of tolerance when the fact that she is a "she" will not be a hindrance to that.

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    rebeccawalker at 06/05/2008 6:03:45 AM
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    Great piece! I'm ordering the book for Tenzin right...now.
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    jclam at 06/04/2008 10:12:41 PM
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    Veronica: I love the name of the book and agree that Hillary needs to look up the meaning. As a woman and one in the demographic that should want her for president, I am embarrassed that she has shown such a hard shell, will do anything to win attitude throughout this whole campaign. She seems to think the world can't get along without she and Bill. I beg the differ and feel the world will like America more w/o them in the White House.
    Each time I see her I think it can't get any worse. But last night crowned everything. Having her event in an area where others attending could not find out the outcome of the final numbers was "hiding" from the truth. Talking about herself just reinforced that she thought this whole thing was about "herself" instaed of our country.
    Senator Obama on the other hand has shown nothing but grace through this whole campaign. As one book that I read about Obama, David Axelrod told the writer that it was hard working with an honest candidate. What a great compliment! I just pray that he will be able to continue on that path.
    M Clampet
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    Pete at 06/04/2008 3:49:20 PM
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    In your next to the last paragraph, you state that you have lost all of respect for Hillary as she is. Well, all I can say is that you two must be "two peas from the same pod". Since you supported her in her health care solution during Bill's term, you have never learned who Hillary is: Hitler's wife. Since Bill is not Hitler, all that could be said for Hillary is that she is Hitler herself.

    Jerry Wells.
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    MsClarity at 06/04/2008 12:50:01 PM
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    I too have read this book with my children because its message is the true one! I thought Hillary would prove to be a more "graceful" candidate, even though I supported Obama. I thought, I'd fight for my preference of who the best person for the job would be, then if Hillary won the nomination, I'd have no problem voting for her...but that was before her lack of grace. And when my young daughter asked me why I didn't want to vote for her, I used Grace as an example. I want my daughter to grow up knowing that she can be anything she wants, but that there are ways of winning and losing that are known as having good sportsmanship. I don't want my daughter idolizing a "winatallcosts" candidate,even if she is the first/most successful candidate. It is a wonderful book!
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    NatalieHopkinson at 06/04/2008 12:24:57 PM
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    Veronica I can't wait to read that book to my daughter AND my son!
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    Samantha T at 06/04/2008 11:19:06 AM
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    I must point out that Victoria Woodhull preceded Chisholm by 100 years as the first female presidential candiate in the United States. Chisholm was, indeed, historically important, but she wasn't the first.
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    MeriDanquah at 06/04/2008 11:08:40 AM
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    Veronica, your writing is brilliant, as always. I love that you used the word, "trifling." That has always been at the top of my list of favorite words because it so perfectly hits the nail on the head and says everything that needs to be said. Trifling white women, indeed!
    Meri Nana-Ama Danquah
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    KeshaYBG at 06/04/2008 9:51:30 AM
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    Brilliant! Grace for President. A president with grace :-). Everyone needs to be reminded of the power, purpose and possiblity of women in leadership. Will pick up a copy of the book for my baby daughter too.
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    jclampet at 06/04/2008 9:46:13 AM
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    Right on. The Clinton duo have a number of great qualities between them but I don't think either of them have ever been called classy or noted for their grace. Her actions wouldn't have seemed as bad to me if she had been the scrappy underdog who just kept fighting, but she was the anointed one who blew it and then could never get past her sense of entitlement.
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    melissa harrislacewell at 06/04/2008 9:43:46 AM
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    Yes, Veronica. yes, yes yes! Grace for President indeed.
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    LA at 06/04/2008 9:21:16 AM
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    ...SORRY! Continued from above:

    Instead of congratulating him for his WIN, she congratulated him on his RUN for the Presidency. Then to add insult to injury, she still chooses not to concede to officially show that she is supporting Obama. GO FIGURE!

    Donna Gissell had previously stated that Obama has tried to extend his hand by offering her an olive branch but she has refused to accept it. And now she wants to become VICE???

    Then what is even more dispicable, the media wouldn't even allow Obama to bask in the glow of his history-making event of becoming the first African-American EVER to be chosen as a Presidential hopeful. Instead, they (also to include her supporters and her camp) appear to be using black mail to insist that Hillary becomes VP. They say that Obama NEEDS Hillary. I disagree. It appears now that SHE really needs him. She needs him in a sense to continue her so-called Clinton era/legacy.

    As a Obama supporter, I would have strongly supported a unified ticket but my feelings have drastically changed throughout the campaign because of her attitude and how she presents herself. She has shown me that she will do/say anything to get her way. Well, this time it didn't work and now she is trying to take Obama's thunder by now demanding VP AND creating even more division in the party by keeping her supporters riled up and angry.

    I just hope and pray that Obama weigh in on this very heavily and make a choice based on his instinct and NOT by way of being pressured in making a VP choice...I still hope that he chooses COLLIN POWELL!!!
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    LA at 06/04/2008 8:55:18 AM
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    AMEN!!!!! I was very hurt then upset how Hillary STILL could not give Obama his "props" for making history in her speech. Instead of congratulating him for
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