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Jack White and Melissa Harris-Lacewell Chat with Washington Post Readers

April 28, 2008--Transcript of online chat at washingtonpost.com

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Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor today defended the fiery sermons that have become a political liability for the Democratic presidential contender, charging that a furor over his remarks represents an "attack on the black church." Jack White, former Time magazine columnist and contributing writer to TheRoot.com , and Melissa Harris-Lacewell, associate professor of politics and African American Studies at Princeton University and also a contributor to The Root, were online Monday, April 28, at 3:30 p.m. ET to discuss and analyze Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.'s speech today before the National Press Club in Washington on the washingtonpost.com

Jack White: The Sin of the Reverend

Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Our Jeremiah

A transcript follows.

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Melissa Harris-Lacewell: I attended Trinity United Church of Christ during the seven years that I lived in Chicago: 1999-2006. This means that I was in the pews during many of these controversial sermons. I remember the sermon given the Sunday after 9-11 as particularly meaningful to me because I was pregnant with my daughter and Rev. Wright directly addressed what happens when our desire for revenge extends to a willingness to destroy innocents. From the beginning I have wanted to defend Jeremiah and his right to say anything from the pulpit that he wants to say. But, now he is out of the pulpit and in the broader media. Now, he needs an editor badly!

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Jack White: Nice being with you today, Melissa, on what may be a very bad day for Barack Obama's campaign.

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Fairfax, Va.: Do you think Wright is doing this to get back at Barack Obama? There is a lot of press coverage of Wright today and over the weekend CNN broadcast live his comments at another event for quite a long time. What effect, if any, do you think this will have on Obama and the electorate?

Melissa Harris-Lacewell: I am not sure why Reverend Wright would feel a need to "get back" at Obama. Although he has distanced himself from Wright, Senator Obama has never thrown him under the bus and was pretty careful in his Philadelphia speech to say that he refused to disown Wright.

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Washington, D.C.: Why is Wright's association with Obama so relevant to the press whereas Falwell's association with McCain is not?

Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Many reasons. Obama has made a claim to be a different kind of political figure and claims to be able to bring people together. I don't think either of the other two candidates have made this kind of claim. They are more free to engage in politics as usual. Race is, of course, the other factor. It remains a conversation around which we do not share common vocabulary.

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Bristol, R.I.: I watched his NAACP talk in its entirety and found Rev. Wright to be reasonable, highly intelligent, and funny. And then I read Dana Milbank's account of his National Press club chat and "heard" an entirely different person. What, in your estimation, is at work here? And secondly, do you perceive an organized "pushback" from the black clergy to media coverage of Rev. Wright?

Jack White: Shades of the racially mixed reaction to the O.J. Simpson verdict. I think that Wright was very effective in the first part of his presentation, when he spoke from a prepared text. But his response to questions from the audience was unsettling. He was cocky, even silly, pirouetting around behind the host and spinning his hands. Milbank's reaction, no doubt, may be influenced by his ethnicity and unfamiliarity with black preaching styles. But I found it unsettling too. Wright had a chance to lay this issue to rest. He chose to inflame it.

As for a pushback from the black clery, of course, especially since Wright chsracterized the criticism of him as an attack on the black church on the whole. I think that was a mistake because it suggests that black churchgoers believe what Wright says and I don't think that's true.

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Washington, D.C. : Wow! Is this guy secretly working for the Republicans? He is the best thing that could have happened for McCain. My wife an (African American) is a Obama supporter, I am a Idependent, we get into disagreements; she thinks Wright is working for Clinton. How does Obama recover from this self-centered character?

Jack White: Ha! That's the same question I asked in my TheRoot.com piece today. I think that Obama at the very least is going to have to put even greater distance between himself and Wright. And even that may not work.

Melissa Harris-Lacewell: I don't think he is on the GOP payroll. That is too easy! He seems to be simply driven by hubris and ego right now. I think he believes it is his job to defend the black church. I think the church was doing a pretty good job defending itself these past few weeks!

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York, Pa.: The Bill Moyer's PBS interview and the speech Sunday night in Detroit provided mostly positives for the Obama campaign. The National Press Club appearance today, however, appears to have put some significant negatives out there. I don't see how Obama can successfully maneuver out of this barrage without further distancing himself from Wright. Ironically, though, the two appearances before today could have helped him. I'll have to listen to what Wright said today to confirm this view that today's remarks were different. If you have listened to all three appearances would you please comment on them?

Melissa Harris-Lacewell: I agree that the Moyers interview was the most complex and "Obama-helpful" appearance. Particularly when Wright said that God takes things that man means for evil and uses them for good. The most obvious Christian example is the ressurrection. He then compared Obama's Philadelphia race speech as an example of God making bad things good. That was a pretty huge metaphor!

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Dumfries, Va.: I don't agree with everything Rev. Wright says even after hearing the entire sermon, but I understand his point.

Why doesn't the media put his comments in context? Is the media really that driven by profit and conflict?

In the meantime gas is approaching $4/gal and there are food riots. Let's move on to the real news.

Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Yes, the media is that profit driven! Take it from someone who does a lot of broadcast media hits! Even though there are smart and ethical journalists and producers and editors working in the industry, the industry itself is competes for viewer, listeners and readers in a way that makes it difficult to penetrate the noise of scandal and get to underlying issues

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  • Posted By:
    jumpman at 04/30/2008 10:26:53 AM
    Comment:
    What's that saying about a barrel of crabs? Why do we always pull each other back? I really think this man wants his 15 minutes of fame, he needs to find another stage to get it.
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    dmac225 at 04/30/2008 6:00:15 AM
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    During the discussion both JW and MHL asked why McCain and Clinton have almost no black supporters. The reason for this they claim is that neither Clinton nor McCain has done enough to try to draw more blacks into their bases. I think JW and MHL should open their eyes to who the real racists are. Over 90% of black Americans who have voted in this primary voted for Obama and yet you have the audacity to blame McCain and Clinton for not having a lot of black people supporting them.. Gee, I wonder why that is? If 90% of white voters had voted for McCain or Clinton you would be screaming racism from the tallest mountain.

    If Clinton is not nominated do you think women will riot? Can you say the same about the "black community" if Obama is not nominated and/or elected as President? Until all of the hyphenated Americans (African-American, Mexican-American, etc.) decide to drop the hyphenation and just be Americans there is no "moving forward"..
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    techieb1 at 04/30/2008 1:01:38 AM
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    Watching Rev. Wright on Sunday was like watching a train wreck. It was horrible to hear him mock past leaders (as well as the dead) but I could not turn the channel. And I heard Monday's comments were worse! Wright is the worst traitor, because Barack has sacrificed his good name to remain in Wright's life. The game has changed now. A true friend would never turn on his friend or threaten him even in the worst of fights, and so I really think that Rev. Wright is mentally deficient, immature, and possibly toxic, bipolar, or narcissistic. Either way, Barack has never said any hateful things out of his own mouth, and I believe him when he says that he has never seen that side of Wright. Maya A. said when people show you who they are the first time believe them. So, why is SHE supporting Hillary who told blatant lies about her past? I saw a woman flip on her "friend" and unleash a character assassination, and it shocked me so much to see the "Three faces of Eve". God will judge us all, and Barack will come out on top because he tried to forgive Wright. Wright has never learned to forgive America for her injustices. It is sad to watch a Black man as book smart as Rev. Wright self destruct.
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