As for navigating the corporate world, Abalu told a story about how a supervisor once admonished her because she didn’t “let people [tell] her what to do” and suggested that she ask, “What do you think?” at the end of all her emails. After that experience, she promised herself “never to ask for permission” to express who she is.
Carter also explained how she turned a setback on its head. A few years back, she wanted to run for a City Council seat in the Bronx but soon learned how “dirty” politics can be. “There are much bigger things I could work,” said Carter, who worked creatively to effect change in other ways. Now she points to her many awards, including a Peabody for her public radio show, as vindication.
“I love that kind of failure,” she said.