Neil deGrasse Tyson Talks Science and Politics

Scientist and television host Neil deGrasse Tyson chatted with The Root recently about the latest scientific discoveries and the politics of dealing with the government.

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NDT: Not far-fetched. Maybe if a meteor hit Mars and sent up fragments with nooks and crannies with bacteria that lived in there and reached Earth eventually -- over 10 million years. Bacteria can survive all kinds of insults to their ecosystems and environments.

TR: What do you think of Obama's space policy?

NDT: I heard the speech he gave at Kennedy Space Center, and it felt like Kennedy saying, "Let's go to the moon." But he said, "Let's go to Mars." It was a great speech! But he's going to phase out the shuttle, and all these people are worried, saying, "Obama, don't kill the space program!" So people are skeptical about whether he was serious [about us going] to Mars after a period of no access to space. I'm finishing up a book called Failure to Launch: The Dreams and Delusions of Space Enthusiasts.

TR: That's a depressing title!

NDT: It is depressing! But we've got to know what the fears and delusions are. NASA does science on the side. It's in the interest of geopolitics, and you think you manage it by budgeting. It's no good if you say something is great if you don't pay for it. If you look at NASA's budget, [there's] never been more than 32 percent going to science.

I had three terms under George [W.] Bush's commissions for aerospace. It was stereotyped that the administration wasn't science-friendly. In every case, people will list one of three things: the environment, stem cells, global warming. Yes, Bush had a relationship with big oil and the Christian right, so I'm not even surprised that he was obstructive in those three areas, but that's not all. The budget for NASA and NIH went up, sometimes by a factor of two or three.

Washington is about politics. The politicians are not the problem. That is the currency -- politics. In other walks of life, people view politics as keeping them from what they want to do: "I would like my job if not for the politics." Can you see politicians in Washington saying that?!

Another stereotype of Republicans is that they're not inclusive or supportive of black causes. I'm with you on that, but there are a couple of acts you can't sweep under the rug. I'm a registered Democrat, but I'm a fan of clear thinking. The Republican Party was invented as the anti-slavery party, and Lincoln was the anti-slavery candidate!

And look at Justice [Clarence] Thomas. George H.W. Bush appoints him and people complain. Like you can choose only from one column. George W. Bush's national security adviser and secretary of state were black. Colin Powell as secretary of state was the highest-ranking black there ever was up to that time. That gets forgotten.

TR: Who names asteroids?

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